Southern California Mortgage Blog

Short Sale vs Foreclosure: Impact on Credit Scores

This is an updated version of a post that I sent out earlier in the year:

I have gotten the impression from many real estate agents that they are unaware of the effect of a Short Sale on their clients' credit report. The common belief is that a Short Sale isn't as bad as Foreclosure or Deed In Lieu of Foreclosure.

I have argued with people about this and there is a lot of information out there with claims to the contrary. It scares me because I see a lot of lawsuits in the future regarding this.

Short Sales, Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure, or full blown Foreclosure are all weighted the same in determining credit score computations. This information comes directly from MyFICO.com. MyFICO.com is operated by the Fair Issac Corporation, the inventors of credit scoring. I have not stated this without extensive research. This is "straight from the horse's mouth."

Earlier this year, FNMA announced that a record of foreclosure on a credit report will require that three years must pass prior to placing a borrower into a FNMA insured loan. At the beginning of June 2008, that time frame was extended to five years. That is five years from the sale date.

Remember, that the home owner does have redemption periods after default and because of this, the sale date is the actual date of the foreclosure.  An owner wouldn't necessarily know this without researching the actual date.

The Mortgage Bankers Association announced that one in every 200 homes with mortgages is facing foreclosure.  That is a lot of bad news to many families. This information was announced in June of 2008 and the news has become much worse as I write this in October of 2008.

The "Bail Out" bill now being reviewed again by the House of Representatives will give some "bite" to those of us who renegotiate for Loan Modifications. Loan mods are done for a home owner cannot keep up with the current terms of the mortgage. Changes can be negotiated and will keep you in your home.

I am bragging, but 18 months ago, I correctly predicted that short-refis would exist. They do now.....it is called Loan Modification or a "Loan Mod". A new FHA loan to reduce the balance on home loans and make the payments easier was announced yesterday.

I have been able to help quite a few homeowners' mortgages with awesome results! This new bill being passed will bring some order to the process and make it easier to accomplish.

If I had my home on the market because of a bad loan, but felt I needed to sell when I really wanted to stay. If I found out that my agent said a short sale wouldn't hurt me as badly as foreclosure the I would have me gunning for someone to pay.

I would rather it wouldn't be you. You the seller or You the agent who passed on information that will cause serious harm.

Thanks for reading.

History and the "Mortgage Crisis"

Wow! What a week, this past one, the third week of September 2008!

So much has gone on, and frankly, it is very difficult for me to understand a lot of it.

One article that I have read used the phrase, “the credit market has seized up and has made it impossible for anyone to get mortgage loans, etc. (sic).” That pretty much summed it up for me and my business.

Any time that I have a problem getting a loan for a man with 817 middle credit score and 45% down, on the purchase of a single family home in San Diego means that things have gone beyond “hinky”.

With each loan application I take, I summarize with this apology: “I’m sorry. Though I have asked you for everything that my experience tells me we will need, the times are challenging. It is very possible that things that have never had to have been documented before will be asked for before we finish. I believe that we will present a very good loan package. We can get this done if we work together. Please don’t take any additional requests personally. It is simply the need for the underwriter to cover all the bases because he or she fears their own job loss.”

I was very saddened, and then relieved, that the Treasury Dept. had taken over Fannie and Freddie because I believe that those two businesses will become much more predictable as to the standards that must be met for a “good loan”. FHA loans have always made it easier for 1^st time homebuyers to invest in the American Dream and I believe the new standards that will be set for FNMA and Freddie will do the same for all loan programs.

So many people have asked me, “How did all of this happen in the mortgage industry?” I am not qualified to answer that on anything more than my experience in real estate for 26 years and good business sense, but here is my answer:

During the boom there were many nights when I worked very late at the office to keep my loan pipeline on track. I remember thinking many times that “how will these credit scores hold up if a borrower with a 680 credit score buys a home with no money down and loses his job?” If you can’t make the payments, you can’t make the payments regardless of your credit scores.

I also knew that any market that white-hot was going to cool. Sadly, I also knew that many loan officers and real estate agents only look at the “deal” and not how the transaction will play out in their client’s lives.

Then, there is the issue of so many negative amortization loans that were funded where even the loan officer didn’t understand them well enough to explain them to their borrower. I am a proponent of neg-am loans; they definitely have their place. Many, many homeowners, me included, have been able to buy homes and keep them because of this type of loan. As long as the borrower has owned property before and understands how the loan will work, they are good loans.

The final big reason that I could see was that all of the different types of loans that were introduced went far beyond common sense. In terms of the loan programs and the underwriting and approval of those loans, many of this was simply bad business and without common sense. I am and have always been very proud to work with General Mortgage in San Diego. Their level of professionalism has always been superior.

Human nature and/or capitalism will exploit every avenue until it proves harmful and then regulation will bring it back into balance.

In the coming years, I believe that the standard of education for the client and the loan officer and real estate agent will improve. It has to! The price is too high to fail and I am not just talking about money. Our clients trust us with their financial lives which directly affects their quality of life.

The need to prepare the clients’ credit report, carefully consider the loan program being offered, and understand the entire process and teach that will be the professional’s duty to obtain the best results for the client.

I challenge anyone, still in the business, to bring the level of their education up on an ongoing basis. I promise, it will be expected.

Mary Supinger

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Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac Taken Over By the Feds

The Federal Government took over control of FNMA and Freddie Mac this morning.(09/07/2008) As I was reading about it last night and again this afternoon, my thoughts go to how this will affect home buyers and sellers, as well as the economy in general.

The bad news is that it will have a huge and prolonged effect. Credit will become even tighter and qualifying for any type of loan will become more difficult.

As I  take a perfect borrowers' credit report these days, I tell them upfront that I will be apologizing to them until the loan is closed. I will be apologizing because even though I have asked them for everything but the proverbial kitchen sink, the loan process will still be met with things not ever asked for before.

Prior to using credit scoring for loan approvals, we had to document and re-document the source of a home buyer's funds, income, job security, bank records, and every other aspect of getting a loan approval. My experience with that enabled me to ask the borrower for all the needed information up-front. Asking for this information up-front is much less stressful for the home buyer and agents, and of course, me.

In the past year, we have entered a completely different mood in the mortgage business. The news today will make the mood even more serious.

I tell all of my loan clients that it comes down to this: the person who is going to sign off on your loan approval wants to cover every possible thing because they don't want to lose their job.

This is the temper and mood of the mortgage industry in a nutshell.

The good news about the take-over is that more people who are having trouble will get help sooner. There will be more consistency in how mortgages that aren't working are modified so that people can keep their homes. This will keep values up and keeping values up is good for every single American.

I will write more in the coming days. I am very good at helping people improve their credit scores so that the cost of credit can be greatly improved.

Please check me out at http://www.creditfitness.net/calc.html

Danger Zone: Paying Off Collection Accounts

Paying Off Collection Accounts

If you have a collection listed on your credit report and you are getting ready to refinance or buy a home, then you definitely need this advice:

It is very important to know that the possibility of any collections on the credit" is discussed before running the credit report." If I were to run your credit through General Mortgage, the report would be marked and categorized as a mortgage report. A recent mortgage inquiry on your credit can make it next to impossible to negotiate the pay-off of a collection account for anything less than what the collection agency demands.

Let's say the balance on the ambulance bill that went unpaid by your insurance now shows up on your credit report. If you took that ambulance ride two years ago and paid the bill today, you would have tanked your credit scores by making that collection brand new again.

If no mortgage inquiry has been made and we had ordered the free annual credit reports and discovered the collection, then I could negotiate for you in"paying off the collection. This is much harder to get it completely removed that it was two years ago.

That negotiation might include paying less than the collection agency wants for the bill and would always include the collection agency removing the account from ever being reported again. I have successfully done this many times for my mortgage clients. It is especially important because a newer collection can take up to 80 points off of your credit scores.

There is more on this subject in my book on credit and credit scores." You can check it out at www.CreditFitness.net.